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Nick Redfern – Shadow People: Who Are They and Why Are They Interested in Us?

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Shadow People are real and they want you! Why?

As we all know, reality is replete with mystery and enigma – bizarre encounters that defy all matter of logic or reason. The phenomenon known as the shadow people visits are one such example. Dark, murky figures that appear, often out of thin air, only to stand idly and gaze at their terrified targets, people who frequently report a sense of paralysis during these frightful visits. But who are these entities and why are they so intent on showing up, unannounced to people from virtually all over this planet?

I spoke with paranormal researcher and author Nick Redfern to try and unlock this all too pervasive mystery. And just like the shadow beings themselves, where our conversation went was equally unexpected, when we found ourselves questioning the possible connection that us humans may indeed have with these dark and devious characters. Let’s dive deep!

✴️ Books mentioned in this episode:

Top Secret Alien Abduction Files: What the Government Doesn’t Want You to Know

The Black Diary: M.I.B, Women in Black, Black-Eyed Children, and Dangerous Books

Nick Redfern is a full-time author and journalist specializing in a wide range of unsolved mysteries, including Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, UFO sightings, government conspiracies, alien abductions and paranormal phenomena. He writes regularly for the London Daily Express newspaper, Fortean Times, Fate, and UFO Magazine. His previous books include Three Men Seeking Monsters, Strange Secrets, Cosmic Crashes, and The FBI Files. Among his many exploits, Redfern has investigated reports of lake monsters in Scotland, vampires in Puerto Rico, werewolves in England, aliens in Mexico, and sea serpents in the United States. Redfern travels and lectures extensively around the world. Originally from England, he currently lives in Dallas, Texas.

Visit his website: Nick Redfern’s World of Whatever


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Alexis Brooks

Alexis Brooks is the editor-in-chief of Higher Journeys, an award-winning talk show host, #1 best-selling author, and international speaker covering metaphysics, spirituality and personal transformation. Her work explores consciousness, human potential, and the deeper characteristics of reality from a transcendental perspective and her approach to these subjects have been described by many as “clear and easy to understand” in covering an otherwise complex and esoteric subject matter. Alexis' mantra: If you dare explore the mystery, Universe will more than meet you half way!


  1. Tiffany Lystra
    September 26, 2021 @ 12:20 pm

    Hi Alexis,
    Extending kudos your way for your truly fantastic Higher Journey’s podcast episodes. Your approach to subjects that lay outside of the traditional framework of our reality is well researched, isn’t hyperbolic – instead it’s moderate & in being so challenging topics become more palatable.
    I’m reaching out because I had an odd occurrence while listening to your discussion of Shadow People. I’ve selected the wrong episode to link from – the podcast I’m referring to was with two individuals – a man & woman, and not this episode with Nick Redfern. Writing because you mentioned getting disconnected during your conversation, and the woman mentioned computer issues in reconnecting, but you didn’t mention what I heard throughout the entire episode. Interspersed throughout your discussion was super odd audio interference – it was a little spooky, quite honestly.
    And strangely, as the episode was half way through I began hearing a vibration of some kind. Between the audio sounds, the topic, it being nighttime, and having officially spooked myself, I stayed safely on my couch; my protective pooch by my side, and finally braved inquiry when the episode ended.
    Entered my den area where my computer is housed & discovered that the vibration I was hearing was coming from my wall clock – the second’s arm had jammed, & the vibration I was hearing was the clicking/jammed movement of the arm trying to free itself. Have any other listener’s reported odd audio sounds, or any quirky one-off happening’s, while listening to this discussion?

    If you’ve read through my message, I thank you kindly. SiHope this inquiry finds you well & happy, and immersed in something that fully engages that bright & agile mind of yours.



    • Alexis Brooks
      September 26, 2021 @ 12:50 pm

      Hello Tiffany,

      Thank you for your kind note and for sharing your “strange” encounter. First off, the interview you are referring to was with Sean Stone and (the late) Rosemary Ellen Guiley (still hard for me to say “the late”…she was a dear friend.) But yes, I recall what you’re referring to. Rosemary felt adamant that whenever having these sorts of conversations (in this case, about shadow people) that the “gremlins” would enjoy screwing things up with technology because they don’t like us having these conversations. That was her feeling. But beyond that, many have reported, again, often when either having these kind of chats or even reading a book or watching a film about this sort of phenomena that odd things would happen either simultaneously or shortly thereafter.

      It’s a very curious confluence of events and one that I find fascinating, though it can be a bit creepy.

      Thanks again for reaching out and for tuning in (and reading) Higher Journeys!

      All best and blessings to you.

      – Alexis


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